Debbie Nathan

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Giuliani and the Staten Island Lesbian: Tales from an Old Term Paper

si-interesting.jpgTo make it to the Republican presidential caucuses, former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani has been flip flopping the cosmopolitan stances he used to take on gay, women’s and immigrant rights. Once he supported them; now he’s against. And lately, he’s adopted another opportunistic tad: implying that Staten Island is a center for rustic values.

Reporting from the presidential campaign trail in Iowa yesterday, the New York Times described how Rudy repeatedly exploited misperceptions about New York City’s least populated borough while responding to heartlanders who asked if he understands life in the boonies.

“You’ve been out here in the country where there are no roads,” said one Iowa farmer. “When you get back to the big city, are you going to forget the little guys out here who are farming to feed you?” Giuliani responded that when he was mayor, “I didn’t forget anybody,” because, “The place that kind of won the election for me was Staten Island. It’s the closest thing that New York City has to — I wouldn’t call it rural, but suburbs.” When asked if he’d ever worked on a farm, he sheepishly said no, then again went into his Big-Apple Mayberry routine. The people in Staten Island, he said, “feel like they are part of their own community. You get the same feeling you get in smaller-town America.”

Staten Island may have more houses and more Republicans than the other boroughs, but casting it as a C&W song is as silly as Rudy’s recent claims that he dwelled for weeks at Ground Zero after 9/11 (in fact he spent only a few hours). Staten Island has probably never been “smaller-town America” in terms of multi-culti demographics. And though it used to have farms, they were hardly enclaves of social conservatism, even decades ago.

True to New York City form, I discovered all this last year while poking through mountains of shlock at an estate sale in Brooklyn.

si-farm-paper2.jpgIt took place in a rambling old house bursting with price-tagged memorabilia, including schoolwork  by a young woman who attended Brooklyn College after World War II. I found one of her semester papers, done for Sociology 12 with Professor Waterman. It is neatly handwritten, on lined composition paper, and was submitted on December 23, 1947. Its title is “Visit to a Staten Island Garden Farm.”

For her research, the student interviewed several farmers, including Gus Thanasoulis, a Greek. He raised beets, carrots and other vegetables, and sold them at his roadside stand on Richmond Avenue.

The sociology student noted that – just like Mexicans crossing the border illegally today — Thanasoulis and his wife were immigrants from a rural region, with no education. They’d started farming in Staten Island in 1919, and almost 30 years later, Thanasoulis still wasn’t so good with his English. He got news from a Greek paper, and his second-language grammar glitches were duly recorded in the research paper. (”We grow small stuffs, such as spinach.”)

si-farms3.jpgAnd like farmers today who resort to hiring undocumented labor, the Staten Islanders had difficulty finding cheap workers. Of late, the student remarks, farm wages have become unattractive to local men, who started drifting off the land after noticing they “could easily earn more in a war plant.” The bracero program must not have made it to the East Coast by then, because “to solve the problem,” children “as young as fourteen years of age” were employed in the Staten Island fields.

The term paper also describes a visit with a farmer who was a prominent activist in the Staten Island Growers’ Association. The researcher was weirded out to find this elderly man living with an unmarried daughter who – unlike other farm women, she notes – wore “men’s sneakers” and “overalls,” and looked “most unfeminine.”

si-most-unfeminine.jpgShades of the Greenwich Village dyke scene a free ferry ride away. In fact, the student concludes in her 1947 paper, it’s wrong to think of Staten Island farmers as rural people. “They live in New York City,” she writes. They are “definitely urban in thoughts.” They act “no differently from the real urban dweller.”

“Interesting,” Professor Waterman writes on the paper’s cover page.

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(Counterpunch Editors’ Note: New York Greens vividly recall that it was Farmer Rudy who personally directed the uprooting and eviction of dozens of community gardens across Brooklyn and the Bronx in the late 1990s. The mayor replaced these organic green spaces with condos, office towers and, perhaps, a Whole Foods outlet or two. AC/JSC)

(PPS: This item by me appears in the August 21 online edition of Counterpunch, but I’m reprinting it here to show you pix of that old term paper. For more on the candidate’s opportunism and related creepiness, pick up America’s Mayor, America’s President? The Strange Career of Rudy Giuliani, edited by Robert Polner with preface by Jimmy Breslin, Soft Skull Press. I have an essay in the book).

Comments

  1. Abester
    August 21st, 2007 | 5:15 pm

    As Professor Waterman would say, “interesting.” I’d add “very.”

    Leave it to you to find this paper while rummaging through somewhere that no one else would rummage.

    Nice work.

    And now I’ll go check out SI. I think I was there once in my life when I was not driving through a la the Verazzano to the Goethals Bridge route to enter the swamps and smokestacks of NJ.

    Abe

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